although some hall elders may just now (since silentlambs.org exposed the coverup) be informing the police when pedophilia is reported to them, they are all still sending known pedophiles back out door-to-door after those are supposed to be repentant.
this is insane.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=45688&site=3
Let them make their assumptions. It's a good way to indicate the person has a problem without saying anything.
There are lots of ways the Org could handle matters better. They could require pedophiles to turn themselves in to the authorities before any consideration is given to their request for reinstatement. Problem is they think they are handling everything just fine.
That's why they deserve everything coming their way.
edited to add page 6&7 .
who remembers studying this book?
hands up.
Still got mine sitting on a shelf somewhere, woohoo. The big thing when I attended was to get an old Bible or two, and cut out all the scriptures that were cited in the book, then paste them in the margin. I was not that ambitious, but a few in my class were.
I sometimes wonder where my classmates from 20 years ago are now...
portions are way too big.
would you agree with me that portions that we eat are too big?
today on the news, they said that 1 canadian out of 3 is overweight.
Copsec,
I have a real hard time believing you can buy the things you mentioned for $135 a months, that comes out to 1.50 per meal. The chicken alone would cost more than that. Are you in the USA?
Wife and I spend about $90-100 per week. That does include ice cream, chips, soda, some frozen dinners. If we really tightened up we could maybe go down to $60 per week, But NoAp would be one sad person.
portions are way too big.
would you agree with me that portions that we eat are too big?
today on the news, they said that 1 canadian out of 3 is overweight.
If portions are getting bigger its because they sell better. Personally, I can't get an order of McD's french fries that is too big. mmm. fries. Besides, nobody says you have to eat it all. Take it home. Split an order. Order off the kids menu.
And yes, I could stand to lose a few pounds...
does anybody know what the watchtower's teachings on dinosaurs are (except for the ones that make up the governing body!
Warrigal, don't be silly. Jehovah would not create carnivores. Don't you remember that all the animals ate plants in the Garden of Eden. So when the dinosaurs were on the earth, at least several thousand years earlier, there would be no fearsome carnivores lurking about. Of course, some no doubt were designed by Jehovah as carrion eaters, with sharp teeth and claws designed to tear the flesh of dead dinosaurs. And of course God's law on consuming blood has never applied to animals(Job 39:30).
the feb. km has an article entitled: new arrangement for kingdom hall libraries.
no longer will the library be called the theocratic ministry school library.
now, it has been renamed the kingdom hall library.
And may I also add, what a bold new program this is from the faithful and discreet slave! This is a change even more amazing than last years unveiling of the new title, Congregation Book Study Overseer!
Imagine, no more confusion over which library is which. No more duplication of valuable resources. Again we see how the faithful and discreet slave class, under the firm direction of Jehovah's Holy Spirit, continues to guide and direct the congregations, as this old system totters precariously ever closer to its end. Surely we will all be blessed as we cooperate with this loving new arrangement.
Perhaps now you apostates will realize the folly of your ways. Despite the fierce persecution aimed at Jehovah's loyal servants, they continue to prosper. What other group has this kind of direction? None.
We can only wait in anticipation for further wonderful direction!
the feb. km has an article entitled: new arrangement for kingdom hall libraries.
no longer will the library be called the theocratic ministry school library.
now, it has been renamed the kingdom hall library.
Scully,
Can I ask you a dumb question? What exactly do you mean by cataloging your books at home? What would you do with uch a catalogue once you had it?
I have stacks of books myself, so I am just curious.
Woohoo screen shots!!!!! Flashback to my Amiga days....
And are there no Linux or even (gasp) Mac users on the board???? Microsoft is almost as evil as the Watchtower. Wake up people!!!!
the following is a message that bill bowen e-mailed to everyone on the silentlambs mailing list on january 20th 2003 (bold was added by me):.
who pays for child abuse?.
by bill bowen, founder of http://www.silentlambs.org.
If the Watchtower is sued out of physical existence is this the action from Jehovah that members are waiting for?
God works in mysterious ways. Perhaps some of our prayers will be answered after all!!!
i just read a couple of threads related to this topic but would like some comments directly related to the issue of clergy privilege (c-p) and the jws.. if clergy penitent privilege refers to the right for a member of the clergy to remain silent concerning criminal acts disclosed to him by the person who committed the criminal act then does this privilege apply to jw elders?.
if a victim of abuse or their family goes to an elder to disclose they are the victim of abuse in the congregation and asking for assistance does c-p apply?
if the elder goes to the accused and asks him whether he did it and the accused says "no" was there a confession requiring c-p?.
Yeru,
NO the Clergy Client Privelege doesn't apply if it's the victim that tells.
Somehow I think this fact is overlooked in many cases, either through ignorance or through elders trying to keep a lid on things.
Lady Lee
I go to the elders to see what I can do and what they can do.
This is the first instinct a loyal witness has, of course. It's been drilled into them for so long. They should go to the police first, but they don't. Or they wait for permission to report to the police. Why????? The Society will say, we never told them they could not go to the police. Technically they did not. They don't have to say it.
So how do you break that mindset?
